tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21841592.post5557594337491172455..comments2022-04-27T23:07:59.833-04:00Comments on Conversi ad Dominum: Principle Issues: Orthodoxy and Confessional DocumentsFr John W Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01283787316830250866noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21841592.post-21274784002753708812007-06-23T13:46:00.000-04:002007-06-23T13:46:00.000-04:00there is no distinction for the East between litur...<I>there is no distinction for the East between liturgical law and canon law</I><BR/><BR/>I don't think this is right.<BR/><BR/>As far as I know, conformance to the Church's liturgical books is not explicitly required by any of the ecumenical canons, nor do the rubrics of the <I>Typikon</I> have the force of canon law. As far as I can tell the authority of the <I>Typikon</I> is entirely due to custom.<BR/><BR/>Of course, in the Orthodox Church the enforcement of orthodoxy and orthopraxis is entirely a matter of mutual recognition and mutual accountability among the local Churches, and the first thing one will look at to determine whether or not another local Church is orthodox is whether or not their liturgy conforms to the Church's <I>lex orandi</I>. That is what gives the <I>Typikon</I> its force.Chris Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220498656377282715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21841592.post-71948905298849623782007-06-11T12:17:00.000-04:002007-06-11T12:17:00.000-04:00Very interesting. I was at St. Josaphat Seminary ...Very interesting. I was at St. Josaphat Seminary (Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church) in Washington, DC, recently where I had a conversation with a Fr. Volodymyr who works in the chancery for the Eparchy of Stamford. He's doing a doctorate in canon law at CUA. We were specifically talking about the Eastern code of canons, and what made it different from the Latin rite's CIC. But, to your point: He mentioned that the CCEO was the first, true codification of law for the Eastern churches in a long time. Since many of the ancient canons were bound up with conciliar decisions, a codification for the various Eastern churches -- and, acceptable by their standards -- would have to be done within the context of a church council. Since the Orthodox churches can't agree to call a council, the matter languishes for them. (But, not for us, since we have the Pope. Glory to the all-wise Jesus!) Also, he mentioned that there is no distinction for the East between liturgical law and canon law. Fr. Victor Pospishil, a Ukrainian Catholic canonist, wrote an interesting piece on this in his <I>Eastern Catholic Church Law</I> in relation to marriage issues, namely, Orthodox canonists cannot agree on several important points because they do not have a codification . . . which, they know, is centuries overdue!mwidunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865753469746747533noreply@blogger.com